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If you are just joining an existing network then you can pretty much skip over this, I assume you have some form of hosting already and you can put your blog on the same hosting if you like. Within FightBack Network there is an option in your profile to not post to your own blogs so if you select that then you can be pretty sure you will not be putting a link on your own blog to your moneysite on the same IP.

Avoid Self Posting

However if you want to add several blogs, and thus get more postings, or wish to create your own network then you are going to need to be a little more creative with your hosting choices.

The problem is that generally speaking you want to be linking from different IPs, you don’t want all your links coming from the same IP or even the same close range of IPs. So ideally what you are looking for is a good diversity in your class C and preferable class B IP ranges, if you want to know more about that Wikipedia has plenty of info. When you have say a basic hosting account with Hostgator every single site you put on your account will all have the same IP.

For a blog network this is bad.

Typically we could get around this by using one, or more, of:

  • Multiple hosting accounts
  • SEO hosting
  • Reseller hosting

By far the best of these is actually to get multiple hosting accounts with different companies, if you do this then you can be 100% sure that you will have true diversity and less footprint. I say less footprint because for instance many different hosts in the USA use The Planet to actually host their servers, even Hostgator do this. Thus you could still end up with all your blogs hosted by The Planet. Does this matter in the end? Honestly it’s unlikely. If this was the only form of linking we were doing then perhaps it would stand out, but the truth is when you pick companies like Hostgator or GoDaddy you are picking a company used by millions of websites. The only thing that will be odd is if you have all your links coming from the same IP range.

That is where reseller hosting comes in. I would not bother buying from small companies because you honestly don’t get any diversity, they just don’t have the network size. However if you get reseller hosting from a giant like Hostgator and leave it short time between each new site/IP request you will find that you frequently get new Class C, and sometimes even Class- B, addresses all from the one account.

Your other option would be SEO hosting, but again don’t pick a small company because you may well end up with simply consecutive IP addresses.

A few companies to consider:

  1. Dreamhost – use code zontseo [Content protected for Defcon 1 members only]during signup to get a year of hosting for $77 (normally about $120/year). A slightly unusual one this in that you don’t get control over the IP you get but if you leave it a few days between setting up each site you stand a good chance of getting different IP for each.
  2. SiteGround – Actually a very good host that we use for money sites, but this is a special link for 1 year hosting for 1 site for $10. Nice to give yourself that extra IP to play with, and if like us you use them for proper hosting too it helps to keep things separate. It even comes with a choice of 3 geographic locations, USA, Europe or Asia. (Only use the previous link to get the 1 site offer, if you want regular hosting use their normal signup page).
  3. ixHosting – You can have up to 15 IP on the one account, however you need to wait at least a few days before you set each one up or your IP will be close.
  4. Hostgator – Select the Reseller package, Good range of C-Class but limited to geographic range in the USA each account has 5IP, additional are available at approx $2/ip but sometimes can be tricky because of the shortage of IPv4. Code ‘spring30’ for 30% discount until May 14th
  5. HostNine – Select the Reseller package, moderate range of C-Class but also multiple B-Class so good geographic range in the USA, Europe and Asia
  6. SkyNetHosting – SkyNet have a reputation for offering hosting all over the world, be it A or B-Class IPs. However take note by default the multiple C-Class SEO hosting can share the same NS IP address, see ‘Footprints’ below, so we don’t recommend them for such hosting unless you reconfigure the Name Server to unique IPs. Note: Sky Net does not work out of the box with Fightback Network, but is ok for other blog network systems. In order to work you will need them to enable “ini_set()”, their support will know what this is and will fix it within a couple of minutes if you go through Live Chat.
  7. SEO Host – One of the few hosts that actually officially offer unique rDNS IPs on the name servers, removing the nameserver footprint that is possible on all of the above. Select ‘Shared IP Hosting’ for blog network use. Again you will need to get “ini_set()” enabled, and this is done on a per domain basis through their support however it is considerably more hassle to get this activated that with SkyNet.

However the best thing you can do is go out and find your own hosting, in particular if you want to join our network. The move hosting providers we all use the better the network will be.

You may ask what we do here at Zont, well this site is on a LiquidWeb VPS but we don’t host anything else on it. We have 8 different hosting accounts around the world (USA, UK, France, Netherlands, Hong Kong & Australia) and two reseller accounts one with Hostgator and one with HostNine and currently a 10 IP SEO pack with Sky Net Hosting, which we will be changing to SEO Host for their unique rDNS NS IPs (Note: We have since bought an SEOHost account and while it does work with Fightback Network it is a pain to setup, other options are much easier. However it is still a good option for general hosting as you can grab 5 IPs for $99/year).

FootPrints

Unless you buy multiple hosting accounts you will almost certainly have some footprints. For instance while a server in France might be able to have an IP address from the UK, Germany, Ireland and France all at the same time the fact is those IPs will all belong to the same company. So instantly you have a small footprint.

Equally many SEO hosting companies give you lots of IPs but all the sites use the same nameservers… again a footprint. In fact the general advise many people give of using a custom nameserver does not always make sense because while the actual name may look different in many cases it will probably resolve to the same IP as before anyway.

Lets look at some ‘unique’ name servers from Sky Net:

  • ns1.ndx18.com
  • ns1.mabhk.com
  • ns1.bbheaven.net
  • ns1.seohostinguk.com

Excellent we might think, they are all different… but if we resolve them they are all IP 94.76.221.2 thus there is actually exactly the same footprint as if all the NS had the same name.

The question is how much does this matter? In our case, as we already said, if you play your cards right not that much. The simple fact is millions of sites are hosted by the likes of Hostgator so yes they have a footprint but it is the same footprint as millions of other sites out there. As long as you throw in some other links, or add in some other hosts to your network, then things are unlikely to be a problem for you. The big networks were hit in the past because they were so big, if you keep yourself small, a couple of hundred sites, you are not going to face the same problems.

If you are concerned about the reverse DNS nameserver footprint then look for a host that offers truly unique rDNS NS IPs, from our list above only SEO Host do that, or buy totally separate hosting packages from several companies. Or:

Setting Up Custom IP Nameserver (Unique rDNS NS) – Advanced

If you have any doubts please do not do this, you can ask your hosting support to do it for you. However if you have the right access levels, which you do from SEO Host and Sky Net, then there is a pretty simple way to give yourself more unique nameservers, one that actually resolve to different IP’s.

After you have added your domain and assigned it an IP, or in the case of Sky Net had their support assign it an IP as needed just do the following:

  1. Login into your WHM account and Go to “Edit DNS Zone” under the “DNS Functions”
  2. Select a domain to edit and hit the “Edit” button at the bottom
  3. You change the nameservers to your custom/private nameservers by
    putting “ns1.” Before your domain name in front of the SOA ie ns1.domain.com. do not forget that final . (Step 1 in Diagram)
  4. Now put the same in the first right portion of the block beneath this section to the right of “NS” (Step 2 in Diagram)
  5. Put the same right below this but change the number to the “ns2.” (Step 3 in Diagram)
    So we now have:

    • ns1.yourdomain.com.
    • ns2.yourdomain.com.
      Make sure the trailing . is there!
  6. Now scroll down to “Add New Entries Below this Line” and enter “ns1” in
    the first line and “A” in the “Select” section on the same line then in the box that appears add the IP of this domain
  7. Do the same again for “ns2” in a box below that.
  8. Click “Save” and the job is done.

Nameserver Configuration

Lastly you need to go to your registrar, where you bought your domains, and register a new nameserver. How this is done is different with every registrar so if in doubt look at your own registrars help files.

However for the two most popular choices:

Once you have done that go to the domain name server setup and change that to the new name servers we just made, which in our example are:

  • ns1.yourdomain.com
  • ns2.yourdomain.com

That probably seems far more complex than it is, it actually takes about 2 minutes to complete. Once done however it may take a few hours for the new settings to propagate around the world so be patient while waiting. Of course  while we do now have properly unique IPs you can bet that many of the IP’s themselves still share registration data with each other. To get around this the only way it to be using completely different companies, i.e. 5 IPs from one company, 5 from another and so on. It actually does not work out that much more expensive doing it this way because in many cases IPs are priced at around $2 per IP regardless of how many you buy.

Reducing DNS Footprint (The Easy Way)

If the above seems complex you can get away with running your DNS through other services which each control the DNS for millions of websites:

There are many more, some are complex to setup and some are easy. Remember it would not be recommended to stick all your sites in the one system, however much like with popular hosting you could run several sites through them as companies like CloudFlare and DNSmadeEasy run millions of sites so its quite feasible more than one site linking to you would be using them.

If we had to pick one method we would use CloudFlare. With their service you can host multiple blogs on the same hosting account, put them all through CloudFlare and you will not see any penalties for them all having the same IP (the CloudFlare one). Just work it through the CloudFlare control panel and not through your ISPs integrated one.

 

Conclusion

While that closes up a common footprint more important are footprints are ones that users make. For instance using the same themes on all your sites, or installing the same plugins. Identically cloned sites all linking in to your Moneysite will stand out far more than simply having a lot of Hostgator blogs pointing at you. If you have your own network then be sure to not post 100% of your links to your moneysite, you are going to need diversity. In fact you really want some posts with no links in at all. If you are in a shared network this will be less of a problem as everybody else will be linking to different sites anyway.

Pobman

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